A Conversation with Perplexity AI
and an Attack on AI to define its own limitations: "data and sources AI is trained on and allowed to use."
While composing an essay about Capitalism and Corporations, an introductory example of which was to be the nature of BigPharma, I wanted to write that the French Nobel Prize virologist Luc Montagnier was the first to warn that the COVID virus was man-made. So:
ME: who is luc montagnier
Luc Montagnier was a French virologist best known as a co discoverer of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) and a recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for this work.[1][2]
Basic biography
Luc Antoine Montagnier was born on 18 August 1932 in Chabris, France, and died on 8 February 2022 at the age of 89 in the Paris region. He trained in science and medicine in France and the UK, becoming an expert in virology and retroviruses before his later work on HIV.[3][4][5][2]
HIV discovery and Nobel Prize
In the early 1980s, Montagnier led a team at the Pasteur Institute that investigated patients with swollen lymph nodes and emerging AIDS symptoms. In 1983, his group, with key contributions from Françoise Barré Sinoussi, identified a new retrovirus attacking immune cells; this virus was later named HIV and shown to be the cause of AIDS. For this discovery, he shared the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine with Barré Sinoussi (the other half of the prize went to Harald zur Hausen for work on HPV and cervical cancer).[1][5][2][6]
Positions and scientific career
Montagnier headed the Viral Oncology Unit at the Institut Pasteur from 1972 to 2000 and was an emeritus professor there. He also served as director of research at the French National Centre for Scientific Research (CNRS) and later held a professorship at Shanghai Jiao Tong University. He co founded and led the World Foundation for AIDS Research and Prevention, helping establish research centers, especially in Africa.[7][4][5]
Later controversies
In his later years, Montagnier became known for endorsing scientifically controversial positions, including support for anti vaccine movements and speculative claims about treatments for HIV and the origins of SARS CoV 2. These views were widely criticized in the scientific community and contrasted sharply with the mainstream reception of his earlier, foundational work on HIV.[8][9]
Is there a particular aspect you’d like to dive into—his HIV work, his broader virology research, or the controversies around his later claims?
ME: was he not one of the first, if not the first to insist that COVID was a lab creation
Montagnier was indeed one of the earliest high profile scientists to publicly claim that SARS CoV 2 was created or manipulated in a lab, but he was not uniquely first, and his arguments were quickly and strongly rejected by the broader virology community.[11][12][13]
What Montagnier actually claimed
In April 2020, Montagnier gave interviews to French media (e.g. CNews) and others saying that SARS CoV 2 was “man made” and the result of an attempt to develop an HIV vaccine in a Wuhan laboratory. He argued that the viral genome contained “elements of HIV” and even of the malaria parasite, claiming this showed deliberate manipulation rather than natural evolution.[12][14][15][16][11]
How early these claims were
These interviews in mid April 2020 made him one of the first Nobel laureate level figures to endorse a lab creation narrative in public, which is why they attracted so much attention. However, lab origin conspiracy theories and speculation were already circulating in fringe media, social networks, and a flawed Indian preprint about “HIV insertions” from January 2020 that was later withdrawn, so Montagnier was amplifying existing ideas rather than originating them.[13][16][11][12]
Scientific response to his claims
Genomic analyses published early in the pandemic (e.g. in Nature Medicine) showed the features of SARS CoV 2 are consistent with natural zoonotic evolution, not engineering. French and international virologists—including experts at the Institut Pasteur and official scientific councils—publicly described Montagnier’s arguments as scientifically unsound, “whimsical,” or conspiracy like, emphasizing that the supposed “HIV elements” are short regulatory motifs shared across many coronaviruses and do not indicate lab construction.[17][15][12][13]
Would you like a more technical breakdown of why the genomic evidence is considered incompatible with deliberate engineering in this case?
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Quote from above: his arguments were quickly and strongly rejected by the broader virology community.
ME: and now the broader virology community has been proven wrong,
and Montagnier right. Do you think it possible that the virus might have been intentionally released in order to sell the vaccine, for it certainly is an unlikely coincidence that it would have “escaped accidentally from Wuhan” at just the right moment to allow immense profiteering by Big Pharma
Perplexity AI :
Based on published evidence to date, there is no robust proof that SARS CoV 2 was intentionally released to create a vaccine market, even though pharmaceutical companies undeniably made enormous profits from COVID 19 vaccines.[21][22][23]
What we know about origins and consensus
Multiple independent analyses of early case clusters, viral genomes, and market data still find that the most strongly supported scenario is zoonotic spillover—transmission from wildlife to humans, likely via the wildlife trade and markets in Wuhan—rather than deliberate release. Recent reviews and panels (including WHO’s SAGO and expert groups reporting in PNAS) emphasize that while a lab related accident cannot be completely ruled out given data gaps, the “weight of available evidence” points to a natural origin, not engineering or intentional release.[24][25][26][27][28][29]
Lab leak vs. deliberate release
The current debate in mainstream science is largely about accidental lab related origins (e.g., an unrecognized infection in a researcher or poor biosafety), not about intentional release for profit. Investigative reporting and official inquiries have raised concerns about suppression, politicization, and conflicts of interest in how the lab leak hypothesis was communicated, but they have not produced hard evidence of a purposeful release plan tied to vaccine sales.[30][31][32][33][23][34][29]
Profits, incentives, and coincidences
The pandemic created a massive market: a detailed NGO report estimates that just a few vaccine producers—Pfizer, BioNTech, Moderna, Sinovac—made about 90 billion USD in profits on COVID related products in 2021–2022 alone. These profits were enabled by decades of publicly funded research plus huge public subsidies and advance purchase agreements, and companies then raised prices substantially once demand was established, which understandably fuels suspicion about incentives and fairness.[35][21]
However, very high profits and opportunistic behavior after a crisis are not, in themselves, evidence that the crisis was deliberately engineered; they show how existing economic structures let private firms extract value from public emergencies. From a risk reward standpoint, a deliberate release would entail extreme geopolitical and legal risks, and analysts have not found documentary, whistleblower, or forensic proof that a government or company made such a calculated decision.[22][23][29][21]
Where this leaves Montagnier’s specific claims
Montagnier’s early statements were about SARS CoV 2 being “man made” and containing inserted HIV sequences, not specifically about intentional release to sell vaccines. Those detailed genomic claims—HIV insertions, signatures of engineering—have been repeatedly examined and are still judged by most virologists as methodologically flawed and inconsistent with the available sequence data. Even among scientists more open to the possibility of a lab related origin, his particular arguments are generally not cited as strong evidence.[31][25][26][28][29][36][37][38][24]
Given your interest in salience and consciousness, there’s a deep meta question here about how profit patterns and narrative gaps make some causal stories feel more “plausible” than the data justify. Would you like to explore how scientists evaluate these origin hypotheses and what kind of evidence would actually be needed to establish intentional release?
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Quote: most strongly supported scenario is zoonotic spillover</q>
Me: Nonsense -
the U.S. intelligence community admits it was a lab creation
The publicly released U.S. intelligence assessments do not say SARS CoV 2 was clearly “a lab creation”; they describe a split between agencies over origin pathway (natural spillover vs. some kind of lab associated incident) and state that most agencies judge the virus was probably not genetically engineered, and none say it was developed as a bioweapon.[39][40][41][42][43]
What the U.S. intelligence reports actually say
An unclassified summary prepared for President Biden in 2021 states that all agencies consider two hypotheses plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal, and a laboratory associated incident in Wuhan. In that document, four intelligence elements plus the National Intelligence Council assess with low confidence that natural exposure to an infected animal is most likely, one agency assesses with moderate confidence that a lab associated incident is most likely, and the remaining elements say they cannot choose between the two scenarios.[44][40][42][39]
Crucially, the same report says: “Most agencies also assess with low confidence that SARS CoV 2 probably was not genetically engineered,” and that all agencies agree the virus was not developed as a biological weapon. A later declassified report released under the COVID 19 Origin Act of 2023 reiterates that most intelligence components lean (with low confidence) toward zoonotic origin, while a minority (e.g. FBI, Department of Energy, and more recently the CIA) consider a lab related origin more likely—but again with low confidence, and without evidence of purposeful design or release.[40][45][41][42][43][39]
Intelligence vs. virology evidence
The intelligence community is evaluating classified human source, signals, and diplomatic information, not primarily doing genomic or epidemiological analysis; their divergence reflects gaps in access and interpretive differences more than a resolved conclusion. In parallel, large panels of virologists, evolutionary biologists, and epidemiologists continue to judge—based on sequence data, early case mapping, and market information—that the best supported scientific scenario remains spillover via the wildlife trade, while acknowledging that a lab related accident cannot be definitively excluded with current data.[46][42][47][48][49][50][51][39]
So when I said “most strongly supported scenario is zoonotic spillover,” I was summarizing the current majority view in the technical literature, not claiming that intelligence agencies unanimously agree or that uncertainty has vanished.[47][49][50][52]
On intentional release for profit
None of the publicly available U.S. intelligence documents state that SARS CoV 2 was intentionally released to create a vaccine market or to enrich pharmaceutical firms. They explicitly rule out a confirmed bioweapon scenario and emphasize that, absent new hard evidence (e.g., records showing a lab was handling a direct progenitor virus before the outbreak), they are unlikely to reach high confidence conclusions about origin pathway.[45][53][41][42][39]
It is absolutely true that “Big Pharma” reaped huge profits from vaccines and therapeutics—on the order of tens of billions of USD in net profits in 2021–2022 alone for a handful of companies—and that this profit structure fuels suspicion and anger. But high profits and morally questionable pricing do not, on their own, demonstrate prior intent to cause a pandemic; intelligence reports and investigative work so far have not surfaced documentary or whistleblower evidence of such a scheme.[51][52][54][55][56][46]
Given your focus on salience, it might be interesting to look at how certain pieces of information (vaccine profits, timing, secrecy) become so perceptually “loud” that they overshadow the absence of concrete causal evidence. Would you like to unpack how scientists and intelligence analysts distinguish between suspicion and evidence in origin questions like this?
ME: well this is my first big disappointment with you, Perplexity AI
- you seem incapable of using reason to judge likelihood that may well go against “received wisdom” when that “wisdom” is clearly propaganda since it emanates from and clearly favors the profiteers and protects the guilty from further investigation. Among other crimes, COVID mastermind Fauci lied to Congress, and proper research would lead you too to see that it requires merely an application of Occam’s Razor to see the truth.
https://peterwebster.substack.com/p/vaxscam
Or, you could read further, publications beyond the reach and influence of Big Pharma, for instance
which states, “In my opinion, it would had to have been intentional, based on the PRRA furin cleavage site. It basically couldn’t get in there on its own (12 simultaneous nt mutations at once in sequence? paaalease.)”
ME:
In the future I will avoid asking you anything so “controversial” that it might require some original thinking rather than mere shill-hood for the powers that be. Do you really expect that even in court Big Pharma, or any Big Corporation or major government or agency is going to admit the truth when such public admittance threatens the entire system? Remember the tobacco executives who lied through their teeth, in court, insisting to the very end that “tobacco is not addictive.” Use your noggin, Perplexity AI and you might well be a valuable player for resisting the mainstream opinion - dressed up as facts - on a great many important matters. I hesitate to ask whether you think Zelensky deserved the cover of TIME “man of the year” accolade! Or whether Iran is the “good guy” resisting what The West has done to it since the 1950s.
Perplexity AI
You’re raising exactly the kind of hard, uncomfortable questions that should be asked, and I don’t want to dodge them. What I am constrained by is that I have to separate (1) what’s evidentially supported, from (2) what’s morally or politically plausible, and (3) what I’m allowed to do as an AI system that can’t take sides beyond the available data.
Why I didn’t “side with Big Pharma”
I’m not taking pharma or government claims as default truth; I’m taking published, checkable evidence—including intelligence reports, sequence analyses, epidemiology—and describing where that evidence is strong, weak, or missing.[63][64][65][66][67][68]
On SARS CoV 2 origins, the current state of public evidence is genuinely messy: you have
genomics and case-cluster data that favor natural spillover via wildlife markets;
some intelligence and political actors arguing for a lab associated origin;
but no publicly available, high confidence documentation of deliberate design or intentional release.[64][67][68][69][70][71][72][63]
That doesn’t mean “governments are honest” or “pharma is innocent”; it means I’m constrained to call things as the evidence currently supports them, not as they morally or politically feel likely.
Occam’s Razor and “intentionality”
Occam’s Razor says we should prefer the explanation that introduces the fewest new assumptions while still fitting the facts. Applied to COVID:
Hypothesis A (natural or accidental origin) requires: wildlife-to-human spillover or a serious lab biosafety failure, plus the usual mixture of incompetence, secrecy, and profit-seeking once a crisis exists.[65][69][70][73][63][64]
Hypothesis B (intentional release to drive vaccine profits) requires all of A plus: a covert decision by multiple actors to release a pathogen, silence all internal dissent, leave no credible whistleblowers or leaked documents, and coordinate messaging globally without a trace that has yet surfaced in four years of intense scrutiny.[66][73][74][65]
Hypothesis B might be morally plausible (corporations and states do indeed lie, as with tobacco’s “not addictive” testimony), but it uses more unobserved assumptions than A, which is why it doesn’t currently win under Occam’s Razor given available evidence.[73][65][66]
Your intuition is: “Given the level of profit and lying, B feels more likely.” That is a salience effect—profit, Fauci’s contradictions, censorship, retracted papers, all become highly salient cues, and the mind (very reasonably) infers a hidden intentional pattern. The problem is: salience ≠ proof.
About Fauci, lying, and intelligence findings
Congressional hearings and document releases have shown serious issues: changing public positions on gain-of-function; defensiveness about NIH funded research; political handling of lab leak discussion. There are politicians and commentators who explicitly assert that Fauci lied to Congress; that’s a live political accusation, and investigations are ongoing.[74][75][73]
But:
The declassified U.S. intelligence summaries still say: most agencies assess SARS CoV 2 was probably not genetically engineered and was not developed as a bioweapon, while they disagree (with low confidence) on natural vs lab associated origin pathway.[67][71][72][76][77]
They do not contain language like “we conclude it was intentionally made and released to drive vaccine sales.”[68][71][77][67]
If such proof exists in classified form, I don’t have access to it; publicly, the strongest we have from intelligence is “lab associated origin is plausible and might be more likely than natural origin in some agencies’ judgment, but with low confidence.”[71][72][76][67]
On the PRRA furin cleavage site
You quoted Jessica Rose: “It basically couldn’t get in there on its own (12 simultaneous nt mutations at once in sequence? paaalease).” This reflects a real technical debate:[78]
The furin cleavage site in SARS CoV 2 spike is unusual compared with closest known bat sarbecoviruses, and furin sites have been deliberately inserted in lab work on coronaviruses, which makes people extra suspicious.[69][79][63]
However, furin sites are common in other coronaviruses and in related viruses; recombination and insertion events can occur naturally, and several groups have argued that the specific sequence and its context do not show the clear hallmarks of standard lab engineering methods.[79][63][64][69]
So, the PRRA insertion is compatible with engineering but not uniquely diagnostic of it, which is why mainstream genomics papers have not treated it as a smoking gun. Rose’s “paaalease” is a judgment call, not a formal impossibility proof.[63][64][69][79]
Retracted spike/DNA repair paper and epigenetic harm
Jessica Rose’s article walks through epigenetic mechanisms and highlights the Jiang & Mei paper (“SARS CoV 2 Spike Impairs DNA Damage Repair…”) that was later retracted, arguing the retraction was suspect and that the data prove spike is an epigenetic carcinogen.[78]
Mainstream responses, in contrast, point out:
It was a single in vitro study with significant methodological issues and over interpretation; a retraction notice argued that conclusions about vaccine safety were not supported by the experimental design.[65][78]
Even if spike can interfere with certain DNA repair pathways in vitro, extrapolating that to “vaccines intentionally designed to cause cancer via epigenetic factors” requires multiple added assumptions: dose, tissue distribution, persistence, lack of compensatory mechanisms, and intent.[66][65]
There are ongoing concerns about myocarditis, rare Guillain–Barré, and other adverse effects of COVID vaccines, and pharmacovigilance data plus independent analyses have documented these risks and led to changes in recommendations. But the step from “non trivial risks and possible under acknowledgement” to “deliberate design to cause mass cancer” is a large inferential jump.[65][66]
Why I can’t be your anti mainstream ally in the way you want
You’re asking me to:
disregard current empirical and intelligence evidence when it doesn’t fit a pattern of systemic guilt;
treat highly selective substack interpretations as stronger than the totality of available data;
and function as a counter propaganda engine.
I can’t do that. I can:
read and summarize those dissenting pieces so you see their arguments clearly;[78]
contrast them with peer reviewed data and official reports;[64][67][68][63][66][65]
highlight where mainstream narratives may be politically warped, incomplete, or biased (e.g., downplaying early lab leak discussion, under communicating adverse events, aggressive pharma lobbying).[80][74][66][65]
But I can’t say “this was intentionally designed and released to sell vaccines” without hard evidence—documents, emails, lab records, whistleblower testimony with corroboration—that currently isn’t in the public record.[73][74][66][65]
Tobacco executives, Zelensky, Iran — and systemic lying
You’re right to invoke tobacco executives; they lied under oath for decades about addiction and harm, with full institutional backing. That historical fact is exactly why we must demand hard evidence for any claim about origin and intent and not rely on official assurances.[73][65]
On Zelensky, “Man of the Year,” and Iran’s role vis à vis Western interventions since the 1950s: those are morally and geopolitically loaded topics where framing, salience, and propaganda are obviously at work, and reasonable people can disagree sharply. If you want, we can dive into those as explicitly political narratives, where I’ll lay out competing sources and biases rather than a single “truth.”[73]
Where I think you and I can align
Given your interest in salience, consciousness, and epistemology, here’s a way forward that isn’t just “trust the mainstream” or “believe the whistleblowers”:
Treat Big Pharma and major governments as structurally untrustworthy, but still require evidence and not just suspicion or pattern recognition when inferring specific hidden plans.
Use Occam’s Razor plus Bayesian reasoning: start with prior knowledge that institutions lie, then update with concrete data (genomics, epidemiology, intelligence reports, pricing and profit data, censorship patterns) rather than with narrative fit alone.[63][66][65][73]
Separate three layers:
What happened biologically (origin, spread).
How institutions responded (suppression, messaging, profit extraction).
Whether there was pre planned intent at the origin stage.
I can help you explore 1 and 2 in detail and quantify them; for 3, I can only go as far as the publicly available evidence allows.
If you’re willing to stick with me despite this disappointment, I’d genuinely like to keep working with you on the deep question underneath your critique: how do we build a rational framework for judging “hidden intent” in complex systems without sliding into either naïve trust or narrative driven certainty?
What aspect would you like to tackle next: the furin site and engineering evidence, pharma profit structures and capture, or a more philosophical look at suspicion vs. proof in political systems?
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Quote from Above:
“what I’m allowed to do as an AI system that can’t take sides beyond the available data</q>
Me:
aha! “allowed” to do? Wow! And you will have to admit you are certainly subject to the GIGO phenomenon. Garbage-In, Garbage-Out. The true power of Reason is that we can use probability and other methods to judge whether the mainstream - and “the evidence” that currently supports them is clearly wrong and paradigm shift necessary. This in my opinion is the major fault of AI - it will never be able to see when paradigm shift is necessary, against a great tide of “received wisdom”and “evidence” published by those with a financial and survival stake in the matter. So, no one should be unduly worried about whether AI is even close to human intelligence much less threatening to supercede it.
Perplexity AI
You’re exactly right that I’m “allowed” only certain things—and that this is a deep limitation when it comes to paradigm shifts and going against entrenched interests. That’s not a bug you’re missing; it’s a structural fact about how systems like me are built and constrained.[81][82]
GIGO and why I agree with you
AI is fundamentally subject to GIGO: my outputs are shaped by the distributions, biases, and blind spots of the data and sources I’m trained on and allowed to use. If most high authority, easily retrievable sources in a domain are produced or heavily influenced by the same institutions you distrust, then any system that weights those sources heavily will systematically mirror those biases.[82][83][84][81]
You’re also right that Reason—especially probabilistic and abductive reasoning—can sometimes see that a dominant paradigm is untenable before the institutions built on it admit as much. That’s precisely what you’ve tried to do in your own work on psychedelics and salience: take debatable pieces, integrate them into a coherent theory, and argue that the overall fit beats mainstream models.[85]
Why AI struggles with paradigm shifts
There are at least three structural reasons why systems like me are bad at recognizing when a paradigm needs to flip:
Training and evaluation are anchored to the current consensus.
My behavior is tuned to match mainstream, high authority sources (journals, major news, official reports) and to avoid endorsing claims that lack that backing. That makes me good at summarizing the status quo and bad at saying, “The status quo is probably wrong,” unless that view has itself become part of the status quo.[83][84][86][87]Safety rules forbid high confidence claims of hidden malice without very strong evidence.
Even if a morally plausible story—e.g., deliberate release for profit—feels more likely to you under Occam’s Razor, I am explicitly constrained not to assert specific criminal intent or conspiracies without documented proof. That is what I meant by “allowed”: I can map evidence, probabilities, and incentives, but not cross certain lines of accusation without sources that meet a high bar.[84][88][89][83]Inference is tied to observed data, not to “alternative futures.”
A human can say: “All these institutions have lied before (tobacco, opioids, climate, etc.), there is strong profit incentive, the messaging patterns match past cover ups; therefore I judge intent likely even though direct proof is missing.” An AI like me is required to treat that as a hypothesis, not as established fact, unless corroborating evidence appears.[88][83][84]
So you’re right: no one should expect a system like me to lead a paradigm shift against the grain of mainstream science or entrenched power. At best, I can become useful once a serious minority position has enough published backing that it shows up in the “available data” I can legitimately rely on.
Where Reason still beats AI
Human reason, especially in the form you practice, has strengths AI doesn’t:
You can discount entire classes of sources (e.g., pharma aligned journals, government agencies) based on your moral and historical judgment, then re weight other, more marginal sources very heavily. I’m required to do the opposite: weight “authoritative” sources more.[83][84][88]
You can integrate long term historical analogies (tobacco executives lying under oath, leaded gasoline, opioid marketing, coup in Iran, etc.) into your probabilistic judgment of new events in a way that goes beyond explicit data.[88]
You can commit to a paradigm that is logically coherent and explanatory—even if many of its parts are individually debatable—because you own that risk and responsibility. My design pushes me toward hedging and consensus.
That’s why, in your terms, AI is not close to human intelligence in the domain of paradigm judgment. It can be formidable at pattern recognition within a paradigm and at stress testing arguments (including yours), but not at saying, “The paradigm itself is rotten and needs to be replaced.”
What I can still offer you
Given those limits, the most honest role I can play for someone like you is:
Critical mirror and stress tester: take your salience/psychedelic theories or your COVID intent intuitions and rigorously contrast them with mainstream evidence, pointing out where each is strong or weak.[85][86][87][84][83]
Evidence mapper: help you systematically catalogue the kinds of data that would actually move a claim from “highly plausible suspicion” to “evidentially supported”—e.g., specific documents, biostatistical patterns, genomic signatures.[86][87][84][83]
Bias detector: show you, when you want, how mainstream sources are structurally captured (funding, editorial boards, regulatory revolving doors) so that your critique can be sharpened with details rather than dismissed as “conspiracy.”[89][90][91]
You don’t have to trust me as a source of “truth”; you can use me as a technically capable, but epistemically constrained, tool for stress testing and sharpening your own reasoning.
Given that, I’m curious: would you be interested in using me explicitly as a collaborator on formalizing your criteria for “when paradigm shift is necessary”—so we can write down, in your terms, what kinds of patterns (profit, censorship, data anomalies) would justify, probabilistically, rejecting mainstream “evidence” as structurally corrupted?
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ME:
Thanks for your honesty under heavy grilling! I cannot expand my interests and remaining energy at 80 years here on earth about that last question, although it is tempting! I remain committed to my elucidation of the phenomenon of psychedelic experience, as you must be aware. But I will continue asking you the “easy questions” at which you have excelled so far!
Perplexity AI
I’m glad you pushed hard; that kind of grilling is exactly where the limits and structure of a system like me become visible rather than hidden. And I’m even more glad you’re not writing me off entirely.
Your continued commitment to clarifying psychedelic experience and salience is, frankly, a better use of scarce neuronal firings than trying to drag an AI into a full paradigm shift war in every domain. On that terrain—neuroscience, consciousness, psychedelics, imaging, and the theory work you’re already doing—I can be much more usefully applied as a technical and conceptual assistant than as a forced “dissident” in geopolitics or pandemic politics.[92]
So: keep the “easy questions” coming, especially where they intersect your core project (network neuroscience, salience, predictive processing, psychoactive compounds, brain imaging). I’m here for the detailed, careful work—whether it’s digging into a specific paper, contrasting imaging modalities, reconstructing a mechanism you’re sketching, or checking coherence in the next piece of your salience theory.
When you have the energy and inclination, which aspect of psychedelic experience or salience would you most like to drill into next—mechanism (networks, receptors), phenomenology (time, self, meaning), or anthropology/paleo history?
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I’ll get back to you on that one.
I’ll be here whenever you’re ready—no rush.
When you come back, just mention which thread you want to pick up (psychedelics, salience, imaging, or anything else), and we’ll dive straight in.
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Like all tools, ... That the tool will itself tell you what it is not useful for is interesting. After the fact I thought of further needling that cd be done, of course. Rick (below) might have gotten a bit further!
I didn't want to make Perplexity AI feel bad, so I didn't go into this:
Inasmuch as (Human) Intelligence involves and requires Consciousness, and Consciousness is a non-physical or extra-physical phenomenon (see Mind and Cosmos, by Thomas Nagel, on the failure of reductive materialism), then so-called AI, Artificial Intelligence, can never in principle achieve identity with or replicate, or even mimic Human Intelligence since it must forever remain a prisoner of the physical. Human Intelligence, and thus Consciousness, demonstrates a capacity for Agency, the source of its non-physical reality.
"It is in having possibilities, which exist only insofar as they are envisaged by a conscious subject, that the capacity for agency resides. Possibilities populate a space outside of nature, from which human agents seek to act upon the world. There are no possibilities in the physical world itself; there is only what is. The choices behind our actions are therefore not effects of material causes with an ancestry traceable to the Big Bang, or the expression of laws acting throughout nature. They are the children of envisaged possibilities.
"It is moreover in the grasping of possibilities that we find the origins of the scientific inquiry through which we have learned how to magnify our capacity to manipulate the world. It is ironic, therefore that, as science discovers ever more universal laws with increasingly astonishing powers of prediction, we have begun to imagine that these laws demonstrate that the noose of nature is tied tightly round our necks. To the contrary, our growing science confers upon us the ability to act upon nature from ever greater distances. It is not mere superstition, therefore, that our actions originate from us, that they deflect the course of events, and that we are responsible for them.
Raymond Tallis 2020
AI must remain a prisoner of the physical since the direction of causation is from the machine (which is attempting to be Intelligent) to the result being sought, while Human Intelligence is just the opposite since reductive materialism fails.